I have a Kenwood TS-480S and a Kenwood TS-870S both with built in antenna tuners. On the TS-870S I have a ZS6BKW multiband antenna and on the TS-480S I have a vertical whip with two counterpoise lines which gives me an SWR of around 1.4 ON 40m. It works but is noisy.
On the TS-870S the only band I get a good SWR is on 40m of 1.6. On the other bands the SWR is as high as 3.0 and 80m is 4.1. Now my question is this: How high can the SWR be before the antenna tuners will no longer tune?