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What makes a 5/8 wavelength vertical desirable?

An ordinary 1/4 wavelength vertical is smaller and resonant without any loading coil or matching network. What's the advantage to a 5/8 wavelength vertical? Why 5/8 in particular, and not something ...
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Should I chose a vertical or a horizontal HF antenna?

If I only have the budget for one HF antenna, should I chose a vertical or a horizontal antenna?
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How to reduce RF in the shack when using vertical HF antenna (no radials)

What can be done to reduce RF in the shack (riding back along the coax) when using a vertical 10M antenna (without radials due to space constraints)? The antenna is an IMax-2000 at 32' elevation (20' ...
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Can a 1:1 transformer be used as a protection from static electricity?

It's well-known that under certain conditions verticals and dipoles can gather static charge, which is a common reason of transceiver damage. There are several ways to solve this issue. Some hams ...
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When and why does the size of a ground plane or radials matter?

Consider these three cases: My understanding is that when building or installing an antenna designed to operate over a ground plane (e.g. a quarter-wave vertical), the size of the ground plane does ...
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Marine VHF whip antennae - what are they?

For marine VHF (156~162 MHz), the most commonly used antenna is a 1/2-wave dipole or a collinear array in the form of a fibreglass rod. Collinear arrays are used to increase gain in some antennas. ...
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Does mounting a ground plane antenna upside down change the takeoff angle?

A typical gain pattern for a quarter wave ground plane antenna is: Image from a similar question and see watermark. For a situation where the signals of interest are below the antenna in elevation (...
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Vertical antenna on HF?

What are some of the advantages and disadvantages of using a vertical antenna on high frequency? Are there any better antenna types that I should use?
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calculating all specifics for a 5/8 antenna

So, I've built a couple 1/4λ ground plane antennas for Airband and Marine band. I don't transmit, I'm just listening, etc. So, constructing ground plane antennas with the radials and getting the ...
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What is the attraction of vertical antennas for HF?

I understand that MW broadcast stations use vertical antennas because that polarization works much better for groundwave propagation. But in amateur radio, I would assume the focus for communications ...
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Practical 80m vertical wire antennas without radials?

We'd like to install an antenna for 80m at our club/contest station. Our club, OH2K, is housed at a school, and we can't fill the roof with a radial mesh. The roof is not metallic itself, either. We ...
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Tuning/trimming a ground plane antenna

I've built a ground plane antenna with a 19.5" vertical and 4 20" radials. Currently, at 147.135 MHz my SWR is 3:1, clearly not ideal (and even bad for the transmitter!). I'm reluctant to start ...
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Multiband vertical antenna not working as expected

I built a vertical out of a 5M aluminium pipe. It tunes fine (and wide!) on 20M. I decided to add a loading coil to operate it on 40M, and it also worked fine, albeit not so wide. While I was at it, I ...
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Grounding a vertical antenna from a balcony

I have a multiband vertical antenna mounted onto the railings of my balcony apartment high up on the 6th floor of an apartment building. The antenna is not grounded. This antenna comes without radials....
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Can a vertical antenna be used for NVIS?

I know that verticals are normally chosen for their low angles of radiation without obscene heights, but I'm not especially interested in DX and am primarily looking for local coverage via NVIS. I've ...
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What is the proper way to electrically wire in a loading coil to a vertical antenna?

I am trying to put together a vertical pole style antenna with a loading coil housed at the base using a plan very similar to the one described in this ARRL article. I am trying to understand how to ...
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Size of ground plane disk for vertical antennas?

I’m looking for information about the diameter of a ground plane disk that I can use with a regular car radio and car type antennas in my home. DIY would be best, or any other ideas for a antenna that ...
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Radial length for vertical antennas?

I plan on installing a vertical antenna soon. I expect it to cover from 80 meters to 10 (or perhaps 6). I plan on putting down 32 radials. I am wondering if 16 66' and 16 33' radials will be just ...
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Can coax be run through the center of a radiating element without currents being induced on the coax shield?

I run a λ/2 vertical dipole for 20M that's fed to a 1.5:1 balun at its center with coax that is perpendicular to the dipole (parallel to the ground), for about 30 feet before it comes down to the ...
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Are Elevated Radials Necessary for Elevated, 5/8-wave "Ground-Plane" Antennas?

Currents at the base of an elevated, 5/8-wave, vertical ground-plane (GP) transmit antenna are lower than when that vertical conductor is 1/4-wavelength. Does this mean that the performance of the ...
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How does this W6NBC "derivative of the classical slot antenna" work?

Via the https://ham.stackexchange.com/a/9883/1362 answer regarding a slot antenna for a 2m mobile application, I was introduced to this (pdf) interesting antenna design: The designer John Portune (...
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How to calculate or estimate surface area of required ground plane for a mobile antenna?

I don't have conditions for installation of a fixed 2 m/70 cm antenna at home, so I'm thinking of using a mobile magnetically mounted antenna on a conductive plate instead. So my question is: What ...
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Base vs center loading a vertical antenna

I currently use a homebrew 40/60/80m vertical consisting of a 5M aluminium tube with a multi tapped coil at the base. The ground plane is the metal roof at my house, and the antenna is not centered in ...
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Radials on a vertical, spread out evenly or not?

To have a groundmounted quarter wave vertical with a decent efficiency you need at least 16 radials. So normally you would spread them out on the ground evenly around the base. This would give an ...
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Is the Boom Strictly Necessary in a Vertical Dipole?

I'm planning to build a vertical dipole for 4m and a club member pointed out that my design needs to allow for a boom that should be at least a 1/4 wave long. Why does a vertical dipole need a boom ...
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What do you call antenna that combines multiple Hustler resonators (using a VP-1) above a shared mast?

I know that a Hustler MO-3 54" mast with something like a RM-20S resonator on top is officially an example of a center-loaded quarter-wave vertical... ... but Hustler also allows you to mount ...
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How Does the Performance of Elevated Radials Differ from That of Buried Radials?

NEC4.2 provides some information about this topic that may be of interest to some readers.
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Antenna suggestions for 160m band in smallish yard?

I have a decent-sized but not huge yard (roughly 50x100' / 15x30m) and I'd like to get on the 160-metre band. It's hard enough to get out on this band so I'm looking to do something reasonably ...
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How Does Earth Conductivity Affect the "Takeoff Angle" of a Vertical Monopole?

NEC4.2 gives some insight into this ...
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How should I mount a mobile antenna on a vehicle with a non-conductive body?

I would like to mount a self tuning antenna, ATAS-120, matched with the FT-857D transceiver. I would like to make this pair function on an ARGO 8x8 amphibious vehicle with a polyethylene body. There ...
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Can I ignore the radial elements of a 2m/70cm antenna if it's on a metal roof?

I'm looking for a dual band base station antenna, and find that many of them have short radials around the base. Due to the specifics of my installation, I need to remove them. However, it is being ...
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Does antenna width/shape affect resonant frequency like length does?

I was wondering if I made an antenna from a Rohn 25G tower, would it have the same resonant frequency as a pole of the same height (assuming guys are insulated)? Also with the Rohn antenna, the waves ...
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RF ground confusion

I'm a bit confused by RF grounding. Let's take a HF 1/4 wave vertical antenna for example. When current flows through the centre of the coax to the antenna, my understanding is that the current then ...
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Can I use a 1/4 wave decoupling stub to enable mounting of a vertical yagi on a metal pole?

My understanding is that the ground plane radials used on, for example, a free standing 5/8 wave 10 m vertical antenna mounted on a metal pole, are actually 1/4 wave length decoupling stubs, the ...
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Give vertical antenna directional gain?

So here is a strange thought. If a vertical electrically speaking is a half dipole with the other half as a ground plane to balance out. Perhaps there are ways to make equivalent director and ...
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Stabilization of an antenna pole with anchoring cables

I am mounting my first antenna. It is a TRAM 1481 (about 16' height), which will be placed on a 20' pole, on my home's flat roof (about 25' height). To properly stabilize the pole/antenna: - How far ...
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How low can a vertical dipole be mounted?

An answer to this question suggests that raising a vertical dipole sufficiently can create the effect of a phased array. How about the opposite. How low can a vertical dipole be mounted? Can a ...
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Using two short mobile HF antennas to make a vertical dipole

Instead of using a metal vehicle roof or multiple radials as the counterpose to a shortened vertical antenna, can one use two of them, one pointed downward to construct a balanced vertical dipole, and ...
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2 Meter horizontal or vertical dipole polarization?

When should I use one polarization over the other on 2 meters? I've looked at the radiation patterns for horizontal dipole and seen how it changes based on mounting height. I haven't been able to ...
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Is The Lowest Antenna Terminal Feedpoint SWR Always Optimal?

Intuition might lead one to believe that the antenna configuration with the lowest SWR(50) across its input terminals would provide the best radiation efficiency for the antenna system. But is that ...
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Can I use a 1:1 current balun to feed a 1/4λ vertical?

I have an LDG RBA-1:1 current balun, and I was wondering if it behaves as a common-mode choke that I can use for a ground-mounted quarter wave vertical w/ 16 radials. The other choice I have is a 4:...
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Mounting a vertical antenna on a fiberglass mast

I have a multiband SE-X80 HF vertical antenna which works ok from 20 meters to 10 meters with a tuner. It is attached to the railings of my apartment balcony at the moment. This is the antenna : https:...
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Can I use electrical ground / earth as my RF ground?

I live on a high floor in an apartment block and have a radial-free multi-band vertical antenna attached to my terrace railing. This is the antenna : https://www.thunderpole.co.uk/amateur-radio-...
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Corrugated Metallic Roof used as a ground-plane for short loaded vertical?

My house has a corrugated metallic roof. 2500 sq. ft. The roof is grounded via couple cables. What's your comment on using the roof as the ground for a short center-loaded vertical 80M antenna? ...
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Vertical antenna with feedpoint below ground plane?

What happens when a groundplane antenna's vertical element, bottom feedpoint, and/or bottom loading coil move down and encroach into the area below the plane formed by its own perpendicular elevated ...
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Do Far-Field Radiation Patterns/Gains of NEC Software Accurately and Always Show the E-M Fields "Launched" by Vertical Monopoles?

Judging from posts on the Internet, this belief commonly is considered to be valid. But what is the correct answer?
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How does inductive base loading cause low feedpoint impedance in verticals?

As an extreme example, take mobile HF antennas. These can have very low feedpoint impedances, maybe as low as $6\Omega$. The ideal impedance of a quarter/wave vertical is $36\Omega$, but electrically ...
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Phasing stub length for colinear 5/8λ?

I've been designing a "Super J-Pole" for 10M in MMANA-GAL, but I'm designing it having two 5/8λ sections. However, I came across this picture: Various J-Poles types diagram indicating the ...
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recommended capacity bottom-hat clearance above metal roof

In a few days I'm expecting to mount a Cushcraft R7000 multi-band (HF) vertical antenna on top of a metal mast that will be attached to the outside wall of a large metal shed. The aim is to have the ...
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Is this author correct about using a λ/2 of wire for a coil to get the proper delay on a λ/2 collinear antenna?

Is this author correct about using a λ/2 of wire for a coil to get the proper delay on a λ/2 collinear antenna? Improving the Super-J August 5, 2012 by John S. Huggins I agree with him that there has ...