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Do Far-Field Radiation Patterns/Gains of NEC Software Accurately and Always Show the E-M Fields “Launched” by Vertical Monopoles?

Judging from posts on the Internet, this belief commonly is considered to be valid. But what is the correct answer?
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Grounding for an upper floor shack

My shack is on the second floor, 4m from the ground. My main antenna is a base loaded vertical, using the metal roof (10x6m) as a ground plane. When I operate in 20 and 40 meters, it's pretty ...
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What sort of antenna would use a bicone or lozenge-like arrangement of vertical wires?

In another QA here, there's a picture of an antenna I identified as a "discone": What are these antennas used for? One commenter noticed that antenna was actually a "Discone, but no disc, just the ...
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Base vs center loading a vertical antenna

I currently use a homebrew 40/60/80m vertical consisting of a 5M aluminium tube with a multi tapped coil at the base. The ground plane is the metal roof at my house, and the antenna is not centered in ...
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How much field strength to blow out a receiver?

I was wondering what calculations would need to be performed to find out if a receiver will blow out in the given conditions. Portable AM receiver with ferrite rod antenna 200 ft away from MW antenna ...
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Do Buried Radials for Vertical Monopoles Need to be No Longer than the Monopole Itself?

This is a rather common belief among amateur radio operators, but is it true? A NEC analysis provides some insight on this concept.
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Vertical Antennas

I have just changed from a ground mounted Vertical antenna , to a MFJ-1796 Vertical antenna, due to not having big enough ground to bury as many verticals as recommended. So far what I have found is ...
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Colinear Vhf antenna

Textbook colinear vertical antenna designs show coax cable with alternating braid to centre configuration. Commercial whips seem to utilise a single wire as the radiating element with .66 velocity ...
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Multiband vertical antenna not working as expected

I built a vertical out of a 5M aluminium pipe. It tunes fine (and wide!) on 20M. I decided to add a loading coil to operate it on 40M, and it also worked fine, albeit not so wide. While I was at it, I ...
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What is the proper way to electrically wire in a loading coil to a vertical antenna?

I am trying to put together a vertical pole style antenna with a loading coil housed at the base using a plan very similar to the one described in this ARRL article. I am trying to understand how to ...
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Give vertical antenna directional gain?

So here is a strange thought. If a vertical electrically speaking is a half dipole with the other half as a ground plane to balance out. Perhaps there are ways to make equivalent director and ...
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Why SWR significantly changes with adding 10-30 meters of coax in presence of RFI choke?

I've build a verical for 40M band using a fishing rod as a mast, 6 radials and an RFI choke (FT240-31 ring, 8 turns of RG58, W1JR winding according to the article by Steve Hunt). When I measure SWR ...
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Can I use a 1:1 current balun to feed a 1/4λ vertical?

I have an LDG RBA-1:1 current balun, and I was wondering if it behaves as a common-mode choke that I can use for a ground-mounted quarter wave vertical w/ 16 radials. The other choice I have is a 4:...
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What is the best type of feedline for a base UHF VHF ground plane antenna with a distance of around 50-75 feet of coax?

I'm going to be putting up a Comet GP6 UHF/VHF Ground Plane Antenna. It will be chimney mounted to a mast, and the total height is around 40 ft. The upper half of the chimney starts at the first ...
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Proper magnetic mount placement on roof

I have a Nissan Versa 2012 (hatchback). It comes with one of those default antennas at the back/center of the roof, for listening to AM/FM radio stations. I have a dual band mag-mount (TRAM 1185), ...
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Size of ground plane disk for vertical antennas?

I’m looking for information about the diameter of a ground plane disk that I can use with a regular car radio and car type antennas in my home. DIY would be best, or any other ideas for a antenna that ...
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How Does the Low-Angle Radiation of a Horizontal Dipole Compare to That of a Vertical Monopole?

Conventional wisdom based on the far-field (only) patterns calculated by M-o-M software such as NEC show that low-angle radiation from a horizontal dipole is very low, and zero in the horizontal plane....
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Are Elevated Radials Necessary for Elevated, 5/8-wave “Ground-Plane” Antennas?

Currents at the base of an elevated, 5/8-wave, vertical ground-plane (GP) transmit antenna are lower than when that vertical conductor is 1/4-wavelength. Does this mean that the performance of the ...
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Radial length for vertical antennas?

I plan on installing a vertical antenna soon. I expect it to cover from 80 meters to 10 (or perhaps 6). I plan on putting down 32 radials. I am wondering if 16 66' and 16 33' radials will be just ...
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What can I do about my strong RF noise?

I have a problem with strong and constant received noise, from S7 to S9+20. I've shut off the power, both in my house and two neighbors' houses. I took my portable rig with a Hustler antenna and ...
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vertical 40m antenna takeoff angle

I built a 40m vertical using the W8AMZ design https://www.amateurradiosupplies.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/40m_vertical_monopole_-_manual.pdf Seems to be working for the most part. But I'm not sure ...
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Improving coverage of AIS receiving station

I have just set up my first AIS receiving station with compliments of Marinetraffic.com. They have supplied me with a Comar SLR350Ni receiver and a http://www.sirioantenne.it/en/products/vhf/gp-3-e ...
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Should Hams Using Skywaves Be Concerned About Their Groundwave Radiation?

Comments posted on various websites relating to amateur radio posit that the groundwave is unimportant for skywave paths. Is this concept correct?
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Antenna suggestions for 160m band in smallish yard?

I have a decent-sized but not huge yard (roughly 50x100' / 15x30m) and I'd like to get on the 160-metre band. It's hard enough to get out on this band so I'm looking to do something reasonably ...
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Stabilization of an antenna pole with anchoring cables

I am mounting my first antenna. It is a TRAM 1481 (about 16' height), which will be placed on a 20' pole, on my home's flat roof (about 25' height). To properly stabilize the pole/antenna: - How far ...
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How low can a vertical dipole be mounted?

An answer to this question suggests that raising a vertical dipole sufficiently can create the effect of a phased array. How about the opposite. How low can a vertical dipole be mounted? Can a ...
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How Does the Performance of Elevated Radials Differ from That of Buried Radials?

NEC4.2 provides some information about this topic that may be of interest to some readers.
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How Does Earth Conductivity Affect the “Takeoff Angle” of a Vertical Monopole?

NEC4.2 gives some insight into this ...
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calculating all specifics for a 5/8 antenna

So, I've built a couple 1/4λ ground plane antennas for Airband and Marine band. I don't transmit, I'm just listening, etc. So, constructing ground plane antennas with the radials and getting the ...
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Can a vertical antenna be used for NVIS?

I know that verticals are normally chosen for their low angles of radiation without obscene heights, but I'm not especially interested in DX and am primarily looking for local coverage via NVIS. I've ...
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Using two short mobile HF antennas to make a vertical dipole

Instead of using a metal vehicle roof or multiple radials as the counterpose to a shortened vertical antenna, can one use two of them, one pointed downward to construct a balanced vertical dipole, and ...
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Radials on a vertical, spread out evenly or not?

To have a groundmounted quarter wave vertical with a decent efficiency you need at least 16 radials. So normally you would spread them out on the ground evenly around the base. This would give an ...
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Do the radials of a quarter or 5/8 wavelength antennas connect to the braid of the coaxial cable?

I'm studying for my foundation license (in the UK) and I have these diagrams: Do the radials in a quarter or 5/8 wavelength antennas connect to the braid/shield of the coaxial cable? If so, how does ...
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How do I specify that wires are connected in 4NEC2?

I've been trying to get acquainted with the 4NEC2 antenna modeling program. Perhaps this is obvious, but it's not clear to me that wires with one end in the same place are connected. I'm attempting ...
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Corrugated Metallic Roof used as a ground-plane for short loaded vertical?

My house has a corrugated metallic roof. 2500 sq. ft. The roof is grounded via couple cables. What's your comment on using the roof as the ground for a short center-loaded vertical 80M antenna? ...
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When and why does the size of a ground plane or radials matter?

Consider these three cases: My understanding is that when building or installing an antenna designed to operate over a ground plane (e.g. a quarter-wave vertical), the size of the ground plane does ...
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Dual-band rubber duck gain on 2m vs. 70cm

Using a dual band "rubber duck" like the stock Baofeng antenna and/or the physically longer NA-771, which band will give the best results between two mountain tops given the same input power? ...
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How to calculate/estimate the effect of having conductive material nearby an antenna

I have a system with a 1/4 wave whip antenna and above the antenna there is a mess of aluminium they're not connected but are nearby. I would like to figure out what effect this would have on the ...
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Does mounting a ground plane antenna upside down change the takeoff angle?

A typical gain pattern for a quarter wave ground plane antenna is: Image from a similar question and see watermark. For a situation where the signals of interest are below the antenna in elevation (...
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What is the attraction of vertical antennas for HF?

I understand that MW broadcast stations use vertical antennas because that polarization works much better for groundwave propagation. But in amateur radio, I would assume the focus for communications ...
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Diamond X200A Lightning Protection

Please forgive the naive question, as I've been away from the hobby for too long, but want to make sure I do this right. We just added an addition to our house, and I lost my usual mounting place for ...
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2 Meter horizontal or vertical dipole polarization?

When should I use one polarization over the other on 2 meters? I've looked at the radiation patterns for horizontal dipole and seen how it changes based on mounting height. I haven't been able to ...
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Marine VHF whip antennae - what are they?

For marine VHF (156~162 MHz), the most commonly used antenna is a 1/2-wave dipole or a collinear array in the form of a fibreglass rod. Collinear arrays are used to increase gain in some antennas. ...
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How does a multi-element vertical work?

For example, Diamond makes the X700HNA which is stated as a 4x5/8 vertical on 2m. Does this just mean that it is 20/8 wavelength long vertical? Or is there some magic to phasing the 5/8 segments? I'...
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How should I mount a mobile antenna on a vehicle with a non-conductive body?

I would like to mount a self tuning antenna, ATAS-120, matched with the FT-857D transceiver. I would like to make this pair function on an ARGO 8x8 amphibious vehicle with a polyethylene body. There ...
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Does antenna width/shape affect resonant frequency like length does?

I was wondering if I made an antenna from a Rohn 25G tower, would it have the same resonant frequency as a pole of the same height (assuming guys are insulated)? Also with the Rohn antenna, the waves ...
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Magnum 257 & Firestik 3' Tuning

Trying to tune a Firestik antenna connected to Magnum 257 on my '98 Jeep Wrangler. Having trouble with SWR reading as it is reading too high (~4) after I set needle on FWD and then switch back to REF. ...
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How to calculate or estimate surface area of required ground plane for a mobile antenna?

I don't have conditions for installation of a fixed 2 m/70 cm antenna at home, so I'm thinking of using a mobile magnetically mounted antenna on a conductive plate instead. So my question is: What ...
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Can I ignore the radial elements of a 2m/70cm antenna if it's on a metal roof?

I'm looking for a dual band base station antenna, and find that many of them have short radials around the base. Due to the specifics of my installation, I need to remove them. However, it is being ...
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recommended capacity bottom-hat clearance above metal roof

In a few days I'm expecting to mount a Cushcraft R7000 multi-band (HF) vertical antenna on top of a metal mast that will be attached to the outside wall of a large metal shed. The aim is to have the ...