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Hello i'm in process of creating band pass filters for my ham radio. I calculated the filter for 80m band basing on this website: enter image description here

And recreated it in reality: enter image description here

Then I started measuring it with nanoVNA, and tuning the trimmers to get best frequency response: enter image description here enter image description here enter image description here

As You can see, the frequency response is nearly as simulated, but I'm not sure about the impedance matching. Is this how the Smith chart should look like? Is this filter good or bad? I'm concerned about that, because the rosponse is not 50ohm in whole passband, but only on the sides of it. Also, is this How logmag of s11 should look like?

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    $\begingroup$ looks like C3 is a little bit too large, over-coupling the two resonators. If you were to decrease C3 value, bandwidth will decrease a bit, but should result in a better match at pass band centre. $\endgroup$
    – glen_geek
    Commented Nov 10, 2022 at 19:55
  • $\begingroup$ Nice work! At first glance the S11 looks good (below -10, mostly -15 dB in the passband. Narrow the frequency scale and enlarge the vertical scale a bit so you can see the passband edges more clearly. As shown you can't easily see the frequency of the -3 dB or -10 dB points. (calibrate and save two configurations so you can flip between them - wide for tuning the stop band, narrow for the passband. markers at the desired edges). $\endgroup$
    – tomnexus
    Commented Nov 10, 2022 at 21:29
  • $\begingroup$ @RyujiAB1WX please do not post comments and questions as answers. Ask clarifying questions in the comments. Thank you! $\endgroup$
    – David Hoelzer
    Commented Oct 14 at 10:17
  • $\begingroup$ @DavidHoelzer What I posted contained the answer. It was just divided into two possible usage scenarios. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 14 at 13:28

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What is the function of this filter? Receiver preselector or transmitter anti-spurious emission? The judging criteria would be different based on the intended use.

You omitted the filter design detail, but it appears to be Buterworth or very low ripple Chebyshev. However, the VNA traces appear to be a Chebyshev filter with some significant passband ripple, at least in the way you adjusted the filter. So, the impedance fluctuation in the passband probably results from how you adjusted, but it is also somewhat expected.

No analog filter design maintains 50 ohms for the entire passband. To mitigate your concern and give some allowance for the component tolerances and adjustment errors, you should design a filter with a passband that is quite a bit wider than the actual range you use.

Your S11 looks ok. It looks good for receiver applications or low-power uses but less than excellent for a transmitter power line.

If the filter was for transmitter power line, I would recommend using a low-pass rather than bandpass. Bandpass will have greater insertion loss for any level of harmonic attenuation, and the high-pass portion of the band-pass is not particularly useful.

The insertion loss of this filter seems a bit high. Your filter might be adjusted for a too high Q point, and the inductors may not have enough Q values. In that case, one would expect a higher insertion loss and not very steep transition bands. That may be what we see on the traces.

This filter looks reasonable for applications like post-mix or multiplier cleanup purposes (but we don't need to do those things for 80m).

When asking a filter question again, please include your design objective (filter's function, transmitter's design outline, required spec, etc., to give some context) and the filter design parameter panel on the left side of the Marki design calculator. That will get more focused answer.

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