I am building an HF backpack rig using an Icom IC-706MkIIG with a Opek HVT-400B antenna. The specifications on the radio say 20 A draw at high power, so what size and type batteries would be suitable for a backpack operation?

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    $\begingroup$ Welcome to ham.stackexchange.com! $\endgroup$ – rclocher3 Apr 22 at 18:06
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    $\begingroup$ What voltage, how long do you want to operate at which average power, how much can you afford to carry around and pay? $\endgroup$ – Marcus Müller Apr 22 at 18:12
  • $\begingroup$ The manufacturer's rated voltage requirement is 13.8 VDC +/- 15% (which is the voltage of a charging car battery). I've heard that some transceivers will either not transmit if the voltage drops to 12 volts or other problems occur. See ad5x.com/images/Presentations/MFJ4416RevB.pdf $\endgroup$ – Mike Waters Apr 22 at 21:37

I used LiFePO4 (read: Lithium Iron Phosphate) for my dad's FT-891. The big advantages of LiFePo4 are:

  • Very power dense, almost as much as Li-Ion, IIRC twice as much Wh/kg than Lead-acid
  • Extremely safe: they don't short circuit themselves to flames, like Li-Ion does
  • Flat voltage discharge characteristics: their nominal voltage is 3.2V and they stay at 3.2V until they suddenly start dropping.
  • Handles overcharging much better than Li-Ion: will not be damaged or catch fire from overchariging.

Disadvantages are:

  • Rarer than Li-Ion.
  • Current limited by chemistry

A series of 4 3.2V give you a convenient 12.8V. You actually need to charge to 3.65V per cell, 14.6V total. But don't worry, after you remove the battery from the charger, the voltage will drop to 12.8V.

The current limit is irrelevant for 100W operation since you will be pulling 20A max. I got cells for 30A discharge current and put two in parallel. Works just fine.

I bought mine from Aliexpress from a chinese supplier that makes them into nice rectangular shapes. Very easy to make a pack.

I used 8 3.2 10Ah batteries, connected as 4S2P, that is, two parallel packs of 4 battery series. From the same seller you need to also buy a BMS, which is a charge controller that will keep them balanced.

In our experience, the battery lasts a very respectable 2-4 hours of 100W SSB ragchewing. My dad goes mobile on weekends and his pack lasts him for the weekend. Unlike the car battery, the voltage stays constant. Often my dad has to start the engine to recharge the battery after half an hour of operation. The LiFePO4 stays rock solid at 12.8V, and unlike the car battery, the voltage does NOT drop when you PTT.

I can provide links to the Ali seller I got them from, if you want. But if you're in the USA I suppose there are US sellers available. Don't be fooled by the high prices of other LiFePO4 packs you'll see. Those are giant batteries for use with solar systems at home (they're safe enough that they will not set your house on fire).

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  • $\begingroup$ Sir that sounds good I would love to get the information for those batteries. with your setup what is your approximate weight on the batteries. Thanks Steve $\endgroup$ – Steven Donnell KG5GRI Apr 23 at 12:36
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    $\begingroup$ @StevenDonnellKG5GRI, here's a link to the batteries I used: aliexpress.com/item/32965550425.html I will edit my answer since I made a mistake about voltages. $\endgroup$ – hjf Apr 23 at 17:05
  • $\begingroup$ Aopopreciate the info thanks $\endgroup$ – Steven Donnell KG5GRI Apr 24 at 0:40
  • $\begingroup$ I just want to add that LiFePO4 is in essence what is called Li-Ion batteries. I had been working in a chemistry lab dealing with new types of Li-Ion cells (including LiMnBO3) and we have been modelling new types of cathode materials and then synthesizing it with latter production of cells samples and testing it. LiFePO4 gives nice energy density per weight unit but stability for fire depends on the liquid electrolyte inside the cell. $\endgroup$ – Drobot Viktor Apr 27 at 17:20

Sealed lead acid batteries are heavy. I would not recommend them. lithium phosphate or lipo are lighter, but can be hazardous. in case of physical damage to the battery they can burst into flames or even explode. Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are also light weight and are much safer.

Bioenno is a well known battery vendor that has a wide selection of batteries and have several designed for HAM radio operators that even come with Anderson Power Pole connectors.

Like most good backpacking gear they can be expensive.

you also might want to look at a portable solar panel to supplement the battery. the solar panel will not provide enough current to run the radio during transmit, but it can extend the battery especially if you are just receiving.

I also agree with rclocher3, the radio and antenna you have listed are not the best for backpacking. there are lighter radio and more effective antennas. I admit I like ICOM and I have been waiting for the ICOM 705 to become available in the USA. I also like end fed half wave antennas. They are multiband and only require a single wire and matching transformer.

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  • $\begingroup$ I understand about the choices not being the best but this is for an emergency bug out situation .I chose the 706 for its all band and the Opek for same reason . just hoping you all can give me some direction for power.I have solar panels to trickle the battery . Yes the end fed is great I have a matchbox endfed I use for field day that is excellent. Thanks $\endgroup$ – Steven Donnell KG5GRI Apr 22 at 22:59
  • $\begingroup$ Aha, for a bug-out kit your choices make sense. I was wondering what kind of backpacker would want to carry 9 kg (20 lbs) of radio, antenna, battery, charger, and all the rest. $\endgroup$ – rclocher3 Apr 22 at 23:43
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    $\begingroup$ My idea is to setup com using a backpack for like search and rescue disaster assistance and such i know that they have command and control systems just experimenting with this idea and I see alot of clubs out there doing manpacking. $\endgroup$ – Steven Donnell KG5GRI Apr 23 at 12:39

If you want 20 A, then lead-acid batteries will be too heavy. You would want some kind of lithium-ion battery. Lithium ion phosphate batteries are popular for this sort of application, like the kind that Buddipole sells.

A few caveats: all this stuff will be really heavy by backpacking standards: the radio alone weighs 2.45 kg (5.4 lbs). Of course there's nothing wrong with having 100 W on tap if you're willing to tote the load! But, many backpackers do Morse code with 5 W QRP radios, which are cheaper, lots lighter, and use cheaper and lighter batteries.

Also, the antenna you've chosen is a vertical antenna that needs a ground plane, either the body of a vehicle or radial wires laid out on the ground.

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  • $\begingroup$ Yes sir understand the weight . I looked at the qrp rigs but have one problem dont know code so opting to do what I think is the next best thing . I experimentede with the antenna and it works ok with the ground radials large coiled on pack. moving and run them out when stationary $\endgroup$ – Steven Donnell KG5GRI Apr 23 at 12:46
  • $\begingroup$ For emergencies it's probably better to have adequate power to use the mode that the most people are familiar with: SSB. $\endgroup$ – rclocher3 Apr 23 at 13:59

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