I wonder, even in this modern generation why the outdated vacuum tubes are used. In other electronic circuits they have been replaced by more efficient (and small) transistors years ago. Why they are still used?
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1$\begingroup$ While vacuum tubes are still used in linear amplifiers, I can't think of any transceiver made in the last 20+ years that used any vacuum tubes Do you know of any? $\endgroup$– Mike WatersCommented Apr 20, 2019 at 15:47
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2$\begingroup$ Back of brain whispers that intermodulation behaviour in the presence of a strong interfering signal was long ago better with the best vacuum tubes than the best semiconductors. Back of brain is quite old and those days may well have gone. Someone will know. $\endgroup$– Russell McMahonCommented Apr 21, 2019 at 2:28
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$\begingroup$ @RussellMcMahon There is no solid state linear amplifier that even comes close to the IMD specs of a good tube amplifier. And when a SS amp is overdriven, the IMD is almost always far worse than when a good tube amp is overdriven. If I wasn't so busy, I would copy some data from a past eHam or QRZ thread or two proving that in an answer here. $\endgroup$– Mike WatersCommented Apr 22, 2019 at 16:24
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The last mass-produced vacuum tube was the Cathode Ray Tube, Thankfully those are now going the way of the dodo, replaced with much more practical LCD or OLED displays.
(Edit: it turns out the magnetron is still mass-produced, for microwave ovens. Although apparently semiconductor replacements already exist, and soon the magnetron will go the way of the CRT.)
However, for some applications a vacuum tube is still more practical.
Vacuum tubes are (by their nature) high voltage, low current devices; semiconductors are by contrast lower voltage, higher current devices.
The failure mode for vacuum tubes in case of over-voltage is mostly arcing. This does damage the tube, but if it's caught in time it need not be catastrophic. Since the tube's components are made of metal, they tend to go up in resistance (thus limiting the current passing through them) as their temperature rises.
The failure mode for semiconductors tends to be self-destruction. Semiconductors have an awkward property that as they get hotter the resistance goes down, and this leads to thermal runaway, where the device gets hotter still, which lowers the resistance even more, until the device is destroyed.
So in a high-temperature environment, vacuum tubes can be more robust. And this especially applies in high-power applications.
Where high-power amplifiers are made of semiconductors, they tend to run at around 50v and tens of amps. Where vacuum tubes are used, they tend to run in the hundreds of milliamps (which is a lot for a vacuum tube), but in the thousands of volts. The final result is the same because volts x amps makes watts.
For this reason, you will still find transmitters around the world that use vacuum tubes (valves, as they are known in the UK), an example of which is highlighted in this article about the BBC's long wave transmitters from 2011.
Power semiconductors can be very expensive, especially ones that can work at high radio frequencies. It can still be cheaper to have an amplifier with one or two tubes as the 'final', with all the high voltage inside it, than it is to have a much lower voltage, safer semiconductor amplifier for amateur use. The tube amplifier will tend to be more robust, too.
Wikipedia says something very similar about how tubes are more robust at higher powers, on their page on radio transmitter design
answered Apr 19, 2019 at 3:09
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2$\begingroup$ Aren't some vacuum tubes still being mass produced, such as ceramic-and-metal RF power amplifier tubes? Their numbers often start with 3CX or 4CX. They contain no glass, which is what I think you meant. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 19, 2019 at 16:51
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$\begingroup$ They are still produced, but not what I would call mass produced - nowhere near the volume in which cathode ray tubes were produced after televisions became popular, until LCD panels became economically viable $\endgroup$– Scott Earle ♦Commented Apr 20, 2019 at 23:54
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3$\begingroup$ Hmmm, turns out that there is still one vacuum tube being mass-produced: the magnetron used in microwave ovens ... $\endgroup$– Scott Earle ♦Commented Apr 21, 2019 at 0:02
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1$\begingroup$ It’s the only one I was able to turn up as being mass-produced still. Sure, radar klystrons and the like are still being made, as are audio and RF tubes. But they really are only for a niche market $\endgroup$– Scott Earle ♦Commented Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12
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3$\begingroup$ @MikeWaters A vacuum fluorescent display is a vacuum tube (or a collection of them), and those are still produced in large numbers. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 22, 2019 at 18:47
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As far as I know, vacuum tubes are used in newly-manufactured radio equipment (as opposed to still-in-use old equipment) for one purpose: high-power amplifiers. The advantages of vacuum tubes in this application are essentially from the fact that the tube can be built as a large and sturdy device.
Semiconductor devices may fail due to overheating which changes the properties of the semiconductor material in ways which lead to further heating and destruction; vacuum tubes can run hot and be made of large metal structures which are more robust against heat and can conduct it away to external heat sinks more readily.
Semiconductor devices may fail due to excessive voltage across them, and improving voltage rating is a difficult engineering problem — vacuum tubes can have physically large elements which the high voltage would have to arc between (through vacuum) to cause failure. In RF applications, high voltages may arise at the output of an amplifier due to poor impedance matching — which can happen while in operation due to changing frequency or damage to the antenna or feed line.
answered Apr 19, 2019 at 2:15
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Vacuum tubes are neither outdated nor less efficient. See https://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/devices/the-quest-for-the-ultimate-vacuum-tube
The above IEEE Spectrum article talks about a vacuum tube amplifier that is more efficient than any solid state amplifier.
This is just one example of active research on vacuum tubes.
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2$\begingroup$ Fully agreed! Every microwave oven uses a magnetron (a type of vacuum type). AFAIK, semiconductors haven't caught up yet $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 20, 2019 at 15:34
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There's one more reason vacuum tubes are still used in amateur radios: personal preference of the amateur building the radio.
Speaking for myself, I understand what's going on inside a vacuum tube much more clearly and deeply than I do the internal physics of a transistor. Further, it's much more comfortable (for me) to think in terms of increasing voltage to increase power output, than it is to find a way to increase current without burning something out.
Put those factors together, and anything I build from scratch is almost certain to include tubes/valves, because that's where my comfort zone lies. There's the possibility it will also include transistors, possibly even integrated circuits (because op amps and IC audio amps are so convenient and easy to use) -- but it will revolve around those triodes, tetrodes, and pentodes.
Oh, one other reason for my preference for tubes: if a tube fails, you just wiggle it out of its socket and plug in a "new" one. With transistors, it's hard to tell which one is bad, and you have to (at least) desolder the old one to replace it. A new tube costs more than a new transistor, but to me, the ease of troubleshooting and replacement wins.
answered Apr 19, 2019 at 11:18
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Vacuum tubes are also used in audio amplifiers where some users feel that there is a better or more genuine sound from tube based amps. This is especially true in guitar amps where distortion tone and quality are highly sought after.
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Vacuum tubes produce cleaner transmitter signals more easily and vacuum tune receivers donlt overload on strong nearby signals as easily as tr
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2$\begingroup$ Hi Paul - please edit your answer to make it more complete. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 2, 2019 at 1:18